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	<title>Comments on: Linux Mint Debian Is A Piece of Shit</title>
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		<title>By: linwinmac</title>
		<link>http://www.fettesps.com/is-linux-mint-debian-edition-all-its-cracked-up-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-13293</link>
		<dc:creator>linwinmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ubuntu 11.10 with unity, gnome3 etc is a bit of a chore and not too friendly on reources and our computers hardware..  that being said Xubuntu 11.10 doesn&#039;t suck and is fairly lean by default.. got decent hardware? install/enable compiz and its settings and go nuts.. 
got an ubuntu 11.10 desktop and tired of all the sluggishness from unity and dont want to do a fresh install? ie Xubuntu?...fine..
install the  &quot;xfce4-desktop&quot; and its goodies, taksmanger, etc.. log out... pick xfce4 in lightDM and watch all the unresponsiveness resolve... or use mint debian.. or archbang, or crunchbang, or macpup, or etc etc.. nice thing about linux is the choices we have.. as lean or beefy as you like.. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ubuntu 11.10 with unity, gnome3 etc is a bit of a chore and not too friendly on reources and our computers hardware..  that being said Xubuntu 11.10 doesn&#8217;t suck and is fairly lean by default.. got decent hardware? install/enable compiz and its settings and go nuts..<br />
got an ubuntu 11.10 desktop and tired of all the sluggishness from unity and dont want to do a fresh install? ie Xubuntu?&#8230;fine..<br />
install the  &#8220;xfce4-desktop&#8221; and its goodies, taksmanger, etc.. log out&#8230; pick xfce4 in lightDM and watch all the unresponsiveness resolve&#8230; or use mint debian.. or archbang, or crunchbang, or macpup, or etc etc.. nice thing about linux is the choices we have.. as lean or beefy as you like.. <img src='http://www.fettesps.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m running Debian right now, after struggling 2 days to get my wi-fi working and trying to determine why my video is so laggy, finding out I need to create an xorg.conf because the install process didn&#039;t do it for me... 

yes, well, after all that (and the fact the text on the screen looks like I&#039;m working on an 8-bit piece of shit) I don&#039;t see anything much different in Debian from Ubuntu (gnome) or mint. One thing I do LOVE is that the top right button in the gnome panel is an application selector like macos. I love that! I wish Ubuntu (gnome) had that feature. 

I&#039;m likely going to go back to Ubuntu, maybe try to install mate (I HATE UNITY AND GNOME3) they are both mistakes, big big mistakes. Unity overheats my machine and lags it out like crazy, gnome3 has absolutely no customizable features at all, I miss the ability to change themes so easily. 

soooo, I&#039;m going Ubuntu soon, especially if I can&#039;t get my xorg to install.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m running Debian right now, after struggling 2 days to get my wi-fi working and trying to determine why my video is so laggy, finding out I need to create an xorg.conf because the install process didn&#8217;t do it for me&#8230; </p>
<p>yes, well, after all that (and the fact the text on the screen looks like I&#8217;m working on an 8-bit piece of shit) I don&#8217;t see anything much different in Debian from Ubuntu (gnome) or mint. One thing I do LOVE is that the top right button in the gnome panel is an application selector like macos. I love that! I wish Ubuntu (gnome) had that feature. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m likely going to go back to Ubuntu, maybe try to install mate (I HATE UNITY AND GNOME3) they are both mistakes, big big mistakes. Unity overheats my machine and lags it out like crazy, gnome3 has absolutely no customizable features at all, I miss the ability to change themes so easily. </p>
<p>soooo, I&#8217;m going Ubuntu soon, especially if I can&#8217;t get my xorg to install.</p>
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		<title>By: psql</title>
		<link>http://www.fettesps.com/is-linux-mint-debian-edition-all-its-cracked-up-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-12357</link>
		<dc:creator>psql</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Dolores, about Debian. Also,  I want to add something, I just left Ubuntu for good! They ruin what was a good idea (I use it for 5 years). Starting with annoying and necessary silly gadgets, with version 11.04 and the last drop with 11.10 I would not recommended to any body, or use it ever again.  I change to Mint Debian, for that very reason. I want security and slow changes that work. I need to work to earn my living, paying is for children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dolores, about Debian. Also,  I want to add something, I just left Ubuntu for good! They ruin what was a good idea (I use it for 5 years). Starting with annoying and necessary silly gadgets, with version 11.04 and the last drop with 11.10 I would not recommended to any body, or use it ever again.  I change to Mint Debian, for that very reason. I want security and slow changes that work. I need to work to earn my living, paying is for children.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolores</title>
		<link>http://www.fettesps.com/is-linux-mint-debian-edition-all-its-cracked-up-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-12136</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;once great Debian.&quot;

I stopped reading after that statement. You obviously don&#039;t know what you are talking about. 

@marlor  The reason debian makes it harder (but not impossible) to install software to watch encrypted DVD&#039;s is because debian has strict adherence to the Unix and free software philosophies. De-crypting DVD&#039;s with non-free (and many times illegal) codecs is not something the debian team are just going to put into their OS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;once great Debian.&#8221;</p>
<p>I stopped reading after that statement. You obviously don&#8217;t know what you are talking about. </p>
<p>@marlor  The reason debian makes it harder (but not impossible) to install software to watch encrypted DVD&#8217;s is because debian has strict adherence to the Unix and free software philosophies. De-crypting DVD&#8217;s with non-free (and many times illegal) codecs is not something the debian team are just going to put into their OS.</p>
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		<title>By: marlor</title>
		<link>http://www.fettesps.com/is-linux-mint-debian-edition-all-its-cracked-up-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-12114</link>
		<dc:creator>marlor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried Ubuntu many times and always go back to Linux Mint.  Debian is a headache trying to install with the partitioning tool and very much needs improvement.  Debian and Ubuntu do not want their users to use SMPlayer to watch DVD&#039;s.  If they did, they would include the necessary files to view them.  With Linux Mint,  just install SMPlayer and configure your DVD drive. You are up and running in no time.  

I have just installed Linux Mint Debian Edition and am very much impressed with the speed and simplicity.  I guess it is what you are looking for in an operating system.  For me, you can keep Windows 7, have it and do not like it.  Windows 8, MS can keep that too.  For me I will be looking for a good money and label program.  When I find it, I will forget about MS Windows and just use Linux Mint Debian Edition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried Ubuntu many times and always go back to Linux Mint.  Debian is a headache trying to install with the partitioning tool and very much needs improvement.  Debian and Ubuntu do not want their users to use SMPlayer to watch DVD&#8217;s.  If they did, they would include the necessary files to view them.  With Linux Mint,  just install SMPlayer and configure your DVD drive. You are up and running in no time.  </p>
<p>I have just installed Linux Mint Debian Edition and am very much impressed with the speed and simplicity.  I guess it is what you are looking for in an operating system.  For me, you can keep Windows 7, have it and do not like it.  Windows 8, MS can keep that too.  For me I will be looking for a good money and label program.  When I find it, I will forget about MS Windows and just use Linux Mint Debian Edition.</p>
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		<title>By: Mahira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mahira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with @FettePS.

Gnome is not hard to use neither KDE.

The problem is the familarity issue.

For example; I was using Windows since 10+ years. Since 2008 I am using Linux (mainly Ubuntu) on my notebook.

It was hard to get familiar with Linux but now it is much difficult for me to work with Windows.

Ubuntu is great piece of distro. The best for desktop IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with @FettePS.</p>
<p>Gnome is not hard to use neither KDE.</p>
<p>The problem is the familarity issue.</p>
<p>For example; I was using Windows since 10+ years. Since 2008 I am using Linux (mainly Ubuntu) on my notebook.</p>
<p>It was hard to get familiar with Linux but now it is much difficult for me to work with Windows.</p>
<p>Ubuntu is great piece of distro. The best for desktop IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: FettesPS</title>
		<link>http://www.fettesps.com/is-linux-mint-debian-edition-all-its-cracked-up-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-11767</link>
		<dc:creator>FettesPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 19:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LongTime - Can&#039;t say I agree with all of this.  There&#039;s nothing about Gnome or KDE that makes them hard to use.  Especially Gnome, it&#039;s ridiculously simple.  Perhaps what you mean to say is that when you&#039;re used to Windows they are unfamiliar?  If you took someone who had never used a computer before and introduced them to Gnome I doubt they&#039;d have any more struggles than they would&#039;ve learning Windows.  Also, there are desktop themes available that make Gnome look almost identical to Windows -- and I&#039;ve set up several people with it and to this day they do not know they are not using Windows. Check out XpGnome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LongTime &#8211; Can&#8217;t say I agree with all of this.  There&#8217;s nothing about Gnome or KDE that makes them hard to use.  Especially Gnome, it&#8217;s ridiculously simple.  Perhaps what you mean to say is that when you&#8217;re used to Windows they are unfamiliar?  If you took someone who had never used a computer before and introduced them to Gnome I doubt they&#8217;d have any more struggles than they would&#8217;ve learning Windows.  Also, there are desktop themes available that make Gnome look almost identical to Windows &#8212; and I&#8217;ve set up several people with it and to this day they do not know they are not using Windows. Check out XpGnome.</p>
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		<title>By: Long time user</title>
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		<dc:creator>Long time user</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 19:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice that LMDE is a rolling distro so updates are taken care of on the fly.
If you want a CLI system stop Gnome from starting or find another OS or distro.

Like all Linux distros, Mint, whether Debian or regular, has a fatal flaw to ever becoming popular.
The interface is much harder to use than Windows FOR THE AVERAGE USER the way it comes packaged. 
Admitted, with a LOT of time and effort it can be made more usable but it should be very, very usable, out of the box. This is actually a fault of Gnome or KDE not Debian as we all know.
Open windows are much harder to resize, they always open at the top blocking the main bar if you have it there as I do, copying text is much more difficult, and on and on.
The interface needs a lot of refinement, though it is better than it was several years ago.
Is there a reason why a right click on the desktop does not bring up a menu allowing all the adjustments there are in Windows?
Can someone PLEASE release an X-windows desktop that works smoothly and looks good!
Perhaps KDE, which looks more like Windoze can work on the bugs and make it more elegant rather than adding useless features?

All the talk about converting people from Windows and yet the interface has things in different places all the time. Why? I don&#039;t like it when M$ changes things from one version to the next. Obviously a lot of others don&#039;t either or there would not be so many apps to change Windows 7 start menu back to the way it is in XP.

Ever try to install a package such as XnView? Good luck unless you know your way around the command line, Superuser mode AND the file system. Even then it won&#039;t run.
A good dual pane file manager, such as Double Commander, running in Admin mode makes it easy, but the default File browser Nautilus or even Gnome Commander are useless.
This is because it is not available in the software manager, which is a great piece of software and blows away anything Windows has.
This is of course the developers fault, not the distros.

For me, not anyone else, running Windows 7 64 as a host and LMDE as a Virtualbox guest works best.
If the GUI was better in any version of Linux, then Linux would be the host instead since it is a more robust OS. Till then I&#039;ll use what lets me get my work done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice that LMDE is a rolling distro so updates are taken care of on the fly.<br />
If you want a CLI system stop Gnome from starting or find another OS or distro.</p>
<p>Like all Linux distros, Mint, whether Debian or regular, has a fatal flaw to ever becoming popular.<br />
The interface is much harder to use than Windows FOR THE AVERAGE USER the way it comes packaged.<br />
Admitted, with a LOT of time and effort it can be made more usable but it should be very, very usable, out of the box. This is actually a fault of Gnome or KDE not Debian as we all know.<br />
Open windows are much harder to resize, they always open at the top blocking the main bar if you have it there as I do, copying text is much more difficult, and on and on.<br />
The interface needs a lot of refinement, though it is better than it was several years ago.<br />
Is there a reason why a right click on the desktop does not bring up a menu allowing all the adjustments there are in Windows?<br />
Can someone PLEASE release an X-windows desktop that works smoothly and looks good!<br />
Perhaps KDE, which looks more like Windoze can work on the bugs and make it more elegant rather than adding useless features?</p>
<p>All the talk about converting people from Windows and yet the interface has things in different places all the time. Why? I don&#8217;t like it when M$ changes things from one version to the next. Obviously a lot of others don&#8217;t either or there would not be so many apps to change Windows 7 start menu back to the way it is in XP.</p>
<p>Ever try to install a package such as XnView? Good luck unless you know your way around the command line, Superuser mode AND the file system. Even then it won&#8217;t run.<br />
A good dual pane file manager, such as Double Commander, running in Admin mode makes it easy, but the default File browser Nautilus or even Gnome Commander are useless.<br />
This is because it is not available in the software manager, which is a great piece of software and blows away anything Windows has.<br />
This is of course the developers fault, not the distros.</p>
<p>For me, not anyone else, running Windows 7 64 as a host and LMDE as a Virtualbox guest works best.<br />
If the GUI was better in any version of Linux, then Linux would be the host instead since it is a more robust OS. Till then I&#8217;ll use what lets me get my work done.</p>
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		<title>By: Azimandias</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azimandias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 20:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to disagree too vehemently with Voldemort, but I&#039;m loving LMDE as a replacement for Ubuntu 10.10/64 in the Android Developer Mega-workstation (Virtualization host) role.  

Terminal use is 100% user workflow and style, one would imagine that most developers can manage the gnome interface quite well at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to disagree too vehemently with Voldemort, but I&#8217;m loving LMDE as a replacement for Ubuntu 10.10/64 in the Android Developer Mega-workstation (Virtualization host) role.  </p>
<p>Terminal use is 100% user workflow and style, one would imagine that most developers can manage the gnome interface quite well at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Voldemort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voldemort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>linux mint is the not the operating system for programmers.It gives a lot of windows like feel when you use,which being the reason people want a switch from windows.you&#039;ll hardly use the terminal if you are using mint,and doesn&#039;t give you a programmer feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>linux mint is the not the operating system for programmers.It gives a lot of windows like feel when you use,which being the reason people want a switch from windows.you&#8217;ll hardly use the terminal if you are using mint,and doesn&#8217;t give you a programmer feel.</p>
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